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what's the crucial decision in a turing test? personally, i think it depends on whether it likes indian or british curry. or japanese maybe. or irish? mulligatawny is irish.

[03:07pm] i'd choose indian. my turing test would be a CURRY TURING TEST. {a} pick up some MULLIGATAWNY @ the GON -9 = SOUP NAZI = VIRTUAL LOS; {b} sit in front of the computer & ask the computer which of the original seven mercury astronauts is eating it. is that a turing test? how'd you set that kind of thing up?

[03:16pm] crucial decision: human or machine | neato: Chinese Room argument.

[03:35pm] when i started working at aol my first director during my first review said i didn't know how to ask for help. i thought asking for help made me look stupid. she helped reprogram my thinking: get stuck, ask for help. turing test involves a machine simulating a human. chinese room arg comes from the other direction: human simulating a machine.

the qabbalistic process (gematria) sounds very similar to a chinese room test with implicit/explicit rules. i think i have a good idea how to simulate a machine or machine-like behavior. because of this experience i'm open to different types of questions. quality assurance is about asking the right type of questions about what you're testing. i would never think (until now) to ask this question: can a shuttle ask for help?

absolutely. but how do you prove it? while i figure that out, i've got some information to pass along i've been meaning to say for a long long time: Discovery is a "boy" shuttle.

[04:01pm] AQ 207 = HAWAII FIVE-O = FORTY-FIVE = THREE NINES (:ONE: 999 DISTILLERY [9x111,27x37p] Cancer 9° A little miss, innocently devoid of any suggestion of clothing, leans over to catch a goldfish in a sparkling pond).

AQ 476 = GOLDFISH IN A SPARKLING POND = A CONSCIOUSNESS THRILLER = FLIGHT OF THE AMERICAN ICARUS = GEMATRIA + EROTICA - GEMAEROTICA = HEARING THE WORLD'S SOUNDS = INTERPLAY AND CORRELATION.

what is a fair test for a machine to determine whether it "thinks" like a human? don't we first have to determine what it means to "think" like a human?

AQ 1564 = I AM A LINEMAN FOR THE COUNTY, AND I DRIVE THE MAIN ROAD, SEARCHING IN THE SUN FOR ANOTHER OVERLOAD = THE WORD "NOX" WRITTEN IN GREEK, AND A CIRCLE WITH A CROSS IN THE CENTRE OF IT, A ST. ANDREW'S CROSS (MAZ, Sixth Æthyr).

{a} i've tracked sunspots for several years, {b} i've got a post somewhere nummifying sunspot numbers, {c} what else? fish in water. human in air. what am i listening for exactly? and why? i think i can drag up a "sound" rule book which begins, "sounds are only real if...". if we catch you listening to the wrong "sounds" you will be placed in a padded room. what kinda test is that? we test humans all the time — human existence is one big chinese room. & we built machines that act just like us.

[04:14pm] hmm. wonder if there're any AI programs on the shuttles. or the ISS.

[04:44pm]okay. how does a shuttle ask for help? first tell me how many warning lights, whistles, horns, bells you got on there. i'd say, off the top of my pointy head, if it's got ONE then it knows how to ask for help. would it be logically correct then to think the more of these warny thingys increases something? what? NASA, since 2003, is getting more shuttle feedback than it's ever gotten before. i'd like to know: if you take pre-2003 & post-2003 & compare shuttle mission data, at what point will post-2003 shuttle missions obtain more data received than pre-2003 shuttle missions. when will you reach critical mass?

[04:46pm] darn, i forgot to mention: i think they got jack back into the box. damn!, i always miss the goodstuff working on nonsense like this. i need to a better job about keeping focused.

[05:28pm] in the kitchen, pacing. thinking. suddenly hit me: what if my experience wasn't my experience but belongs to somebody else? machines think. period. do machines feel?

[05:53pm] boy. sure is weird having a conversation with a machine: help me help you. very bad jerry maguire. very very bad. because doesn't occams razor help me with my crucial decision about what to do with a talky machine?

[05:56pm] ie, they don't exist. looked it up in Machines for Dummies. page 472. machines do not think or feel. then there's the warning section & case studies of folks who made the mistake of thinking otherwise.

[06:08pm] but.

[06:10pm] oh. so that's pascal's wager.

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